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The Day Before Roswell

Posted by A51Watcher, on Jan 15, 2011

A while back Stanton Friedman told me that Roswell was not the beginning, but actually the end of a period when Flying Discs (as they were called back then) were buzzing the entire United States continuously for an entire 2 weeks BEFORE Roswell. He suggested I should go have a look through the newspaper microfiche archives in my area because the majority of these sightings were right in my area. I did so and... he turned out to be 100% correct. Every day front page headlines. I am attaching scans and text of those 2 weeks. Also our top brass were being grilled by reporters as to what the deal was. They denied   any knowledge and thus were being made to look bad since these things ripped through our skies with impunity and basically laughed at any chase craft. As time has passed and I have done some traveling, I always make it a point to stop by the local library wherever I am and go through the microfiche archives for the summer/fall of 1947. Reason being, it has been a jackpot every time without fail, and the stories vary from state to state, town to town, paper to paper. Many stories are one of a kind not reprinted in other papers. One of THE most interesting facts to emerge from all of this is:

The vast majority of locations the Discs came to and "visited" were top secret military installations.
The public did not know that at the time, but presently it is quite obvious why they would be visiting Hanford, WA (Kenneth Arnold and more) and of course Roswell, being the only nuclear air wing. Also White Sands, Los Alamos and more. So as I traced their movements during this 2 weeks leading up to "the crash", I noted all the TS and black project areas they went straight for, as I'm sure the generals at the time did too. They traveled in a pack, ranging from as small as 3 up to as large as 9 usually, 11 on one occasion. They cut corners on a dime without slowing down. They were silver sports models, and could emit intense bright light even during the day but usually did not   do so. The pattern of movement reminded me of a rock band on tour, day by day going to a different city, then moving on. The East Coast had a few days of big activity also.

The biggest surprise was when I went to Hong Kong for a friends wedding, and of course went to their library. He came along with great interest and I started as usual a full month before Roswell to make sure I didn't miss anything. Day by day the film rolls by and... nothing! I can't believe my eyes because I had never come up empty before. The entire critical 2 weeks and -nada-. I keep going, and surprisingly not even the famous AAF captures flying disc story or the follow up balloon story was run. But yet I keep going on sort of in stunned disbelief, then finally, a full 2 weeks AFTER Roswell, jackpot! The shiny fleet of 9 arrives during mid day as 100's of Chinese dock workers, and various townspeople watch in amazement at their speed and sharp movements. 

Here are the excerpts from what I found that first trip:
06/25/47 - OREGON JOURNAL - Kenneth Arnold reports his sighting


06/26/47 - OREGON JOURNAL - Flying Disk Mystery Grows
...2 Midwest Men Support Boise Flier
...Descriptions tally On Fast - Flying Pie Pan Objects
...Nine mysterious objects hurtling through the air

06/26/47 - OREGON JOURNAL - Oklahoman Sees Strange Objects

06/26/47 - OREGON JOURNAL - Carpenter Reports 'Discs' in Midwest
...Nine shiny objects flying at a high rate of speed


Arnold Insists Tale Of Flying Objects O.K.
..."It's God's truth - I will swear it on a Bible."

...sighting the mysterious silvery disks sailing along in the sky...

Picture of '7 dots' proves latest in flying disk case

Objects Seen Several Times
...traveling at an unbelievable speed

Lads Declare They Saw "Flying Disks"

Pastor Fears Confrere Errs in Air Mystery
..."the millennium is neigh because of the appearance of the "flying saucers."

Flying Disk Reported Above Fort Stevens
..."There is a flying disk right now over Fort Stevens. It was dazzling bright and saucer- shaped. Everybody in the annex saw it." ...Mrs. Seado was asked to call another of the witnesses, preferably a man, to the phone...

(editors note: lmao)

Spokane Jailer Says He Saw It
-jet planes "are very slow in comparison with what I saw."

Rankin Report Adds Credence to 'Disks'
...New reports meanwhile came in from 3 Oregon cities...

Army Looks Into Flying Disk Stories
...At first, Army officers laughed off the reports. Now..."it is our responsibility to know about it and take action."

(editors note: mm hmm)

More Report 'Disks"; Platter-Shaped Now
...compared the "saucers" speed to that of a "shooting star."

Woman Reports Flying Saucers

Tell It to Admiral!
...Two Navy chief petty officers today reported seeing flying disks...

Richland Man Saw Arnold's Formation
..."these disks certainly were traveling faster than ANY P-28."


...8 Portland area policeman and deputy sheriff's
...numerous private citizens, the crew of a United Airlines plane, and a Coastguardsman who claims to have photographed one
...the alert was sounded over police radio
...a score of calls that the disks were overhead
...Flashes Seen, Noise Lacking
...the disk could change at a 90- degree angle without difficulty
...terrific speed. "The disks would oscillate and sometimes we would see a full disk,then a half-moon shape, then nothing at all."

Airlines Crew Confirms Reports Of Flying Disks: Five Spotted

07/05/47 - OREGONIAN
Air Liner Crew Confirms flying Discs Over State
...Many Seen During Day Over City
...Three Sight Objects-Police Cars Alerted-Veterans Spy Objects-Deputies Report Streaks-Flashes Seen, Noise Lacking
...nine in all
...terrific speed
...described the sight as a "wobbling hubcap"

07/06/47 - OREGONIAN
Flying Saucers Everywhere: New Tales Convert Skeptics
...Puzzle Alerts Entire Nation To Scan Sky
...Pilot Sees Objects First - Reports Come in From East
...Former skeptics joined the ranks of believers as the flashing objects glimmered before their eyes
(editors note: heh heh heh)
...said he had seen a similarly shaped object some weeks earlier, but fear of ridicule kept him quiet
...And for the first time, the eastern states had their reports...
...saw a silvery object fly southward, halt abruptly and then retrace it's course


07/06/47 - OREGONIAN
'Flying Disc' Reports Come From Hundreds, in 28 States
...Reports Come in From All Over Nation Telling of Sighting Mysterious Discs
...came from all points of the continent
...Science Fails To Give Facts
...Public Advised Discs Harmless

Disc Floats to Earth, Flies On, Paper Told
...he saw a flying disk float to the ground in front of him, stop a few seconds, then take off again...
-..Six persons reported seeing the discs in flight...

...Ashland Picknickers Spot Flying Saucers flew south, occasionally "jumping sideways"

Tacoma Cops Spy Discs Around 'Mother'
..."6 or 7" flying saucers...said "a central saucer appeared to act as a sort of flagship... terrific speed."

Saucers in Sydney
...disc shaped objects shooting across the sky


07/07/47 - OREGONIAN
Eight 'Flying Saucers' Reported Down on Idaho Mountain"
...Air Search Scheduled For Region 
...Flights continue To Be Observed Over Wide Area
...Extreme Speed Reported

Guard Planes Patrol "Flying Saucer" Routes
...Land and Air Search for Discs in Idaho Fails

07/07/47 - OREGONIAN
Air Forces Deny Discs U.S. Made
...Air Force Investigation
...Aluminum Discs Seen

Military Planes Hunt Sky Discs With Cameras in Vain on Coast
...Missile Theory Discounted
..."Washtubs" Fall and Vanish
...Two Visitations in Jersey

Air Enigma Baffles U.S.
...The Army Air forces disclaimed any knowledge of where the flying saucers originate..



'Disks' Soar Over New York, Now Seen Aloft in All colors


RAAF Captures Flying Saucer on Ranch in Roswell Region
...THE MANY RUMORS REGARDING THE FLYING DISC BECAME A REALITY YESTERDAYwhen the intelligence office of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Airfield was fortunate enough to gain possesion of a disc

Friends Back Disc Spotter in Portland
...started moving at a terrific speed


Army Says New Mexico 'Disc' Wind Balloon
..Reports Fewer

'Disk' Near bomb Test Site Is Just a Weather Balloon
...`Flying Saucer' tales pour in from round the world

07/10/47 - OREGONIAN
Saucer story slows speed
...The furore over flying saucers seems to have abated considerably

Flying Discs All But Gone, Few Reported

Practical Jokers Carry Ball for Flying Discs

Roseburg Priest Reports Discs
..."seemed to be jiggling and darting about"
..."the flashes were awfully bright and were obviously from a metallic object."

Wisconsin 'Discs' rigged for Power

'Genuine Saucer' Looks Like Gag

...Flight Seen As 2 Planes Follow Path
...the object was larger than two planes which they said were "following" it

Oregon UFO History

Oregon's UFO history is long and rich. Oregon was a hot bed of UFO activity from the beginning of the modern UFO era, starting with Kenneth Arnold's June 24, 1947, sighting near Mt. Adams and Mt. Rainier in Washington. The UFO wave of the summer of 1947 started in the Pacific Northwest and continued east for a few months and then died down.

According to the best UFO database existing in the public arena, UFOCAT, Oregon has had over 1000 recorded sightings since 1947. (Some other good UFO databases are at National UFO Reporting Center and MUFON.)

As the months go by, we'll put up some more information about Oregon's UFO history. For now, check out these news articles from The Oregonian and Oregon Journal from the summer of 1947. Be sure to read through every article and think about what the people were saying about the mysterious objects in the skies at the very beginning of the modern flying saucer era. If you've got any doubts about the reality of the mystery, a careful reading should clear this up for you. Folks, we've got a genuine mystery on our hands, and it is still with us. Why?!

A History of UFOs in Oregon  Jan 2, 2009
Articles From Portland Newspapers 1947 #1  Jun 26, 2008
Articles From Portland Newspapers 1947 #2  Jun 27, 2008
Articles From Portland Newspapers 1947 #3  Jul 2, 2008

For much, much more on UFOs in that seminal year, 1947, check out the Project 1947 site.

SOURCE: MUFON Oregon UFO History

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Originally posted by A51Watcher Post ID 10347697

First let me say I agree with everything in your accurate and insightful post. Let's start with:

Major Donald E. Keyhoe

Major Donald E. Keyhoe, who lived through that two week period (later dubbing it "The Saucer Scare" period, due to the escalating public tension due to the daily increasing sightings reaching massive proportions, while the Military stood by helpless to do anything about it, let alone provide an answer), and afterward he contacted his many friends and contacts in the military and the Pentagon to determine what had happened. He details his search in his 1950 book, "The Flying Saucers Are Real"

Major Donald E. Keyhoe - "The Flying Saucers Are Real"

He provides additional details from witnesses known to the public and also those that were not. He quotes Kenneth Arnold, who said he saw "...nine gleaming disks outlined against the snow, each one about the size of a C-54,...They flew close to the mountaintops, in a diagonal chainlike line... It was as if linked together".

He also relates that most Americans were unaware that the Pentagon had been receiving disk reports as early as January... "After seeing the Pentagon comment I had called up Captain Tom Brown at Air Force Public Relations" and related that he had heard that Civil Air Patrol in Wisconsin and other states were starting a sky search.

Brown: "We've got a jet at Muroc, and six fighters standing by at Portland right now,"


Brown: "I've no report on that. But I know some of them carry photographic equipment."

He relates that on July 8 at Muroc Air Force Base, where TS planes and devices are tested, six fast moving silvery-white saucers were seen by pilots and ground officers. Both a Navy rocket expert (Dr. Robert B. McLaughlin) and an engineer (Charles B. Moore) who were there, each independently reported the same incident at White Sands where they had seen four saucers in that area. The first saucer was tracked by White Sands observers with a theodolite. Then they worked out it's performance with ballistics formulas as being fifty miles up and making over fifteen thousand mph.

The staff at True magazine (a popular men's magazine of the day) compiled a list from current newspaper reports (later confirmed by Air Force case reports, including sightings at eleven Air Force bases and fourteen American airports and a score of encounters by airline and private pilots) of known worldwide sightings at that point that included Paraguay, Belgium, Turkey, Holland, Germany and the Scandinavian countries.

An additional interesting 1958 incident involving Major Keyhoe, (from Wikipedia), "On 22 January 1958 Keyhoe appeared on a CBS live television show the Armstrong Circle Theatre to speak on the topic of UFOs. Keyhoe charged that a U.S. Congressional committee was evaluating evidence that "will absolutely prove that the UFOs are machines under intelligent control". However CBS stopped the audio portion of the live broadcast. Herbert A. Carlborg, CBS Director of Editing stated "this program had been carefully cleared for security reasons".

Major Donald E. Keyhoe
Originally posted by A51Watcher Post ID 10349530

Another early author that came up with interesting details way ahead of his time was:


Frank Edwards and his 1966 book "Flying Saucers - Serious Business"

Frank Edwards "Flying Saucers - Serious Business"

This is where I read the only report I have seen about the event, published post-Roswell in such detail, decades before Major Marcel broke his silence and came forward. 

"There are such difficult cases as the rancher near Roswell, NM who phoned the sheriff that a blazing disc-shaped object had passed over his house at low altitude and had crashed and burned on a hillside within view of the house The sheriff called the military: the military came on the double quick. Newsmen were not permitted in the area. A week later however the government released a photograph of a serviceman holding up a box kite with an aluminum disc about the size of a large pie pan dangling from the bottom of the kite. This, the official report explained, was a device borne aloft on the kite and used to test the radar gear by bouncing the signals off the pie pan. And this, we were told, was the sort of thing that had so excited the rancher. We were not told however how the alleged kite caught fire.- nor why the military cordoned off the area while they inspected the wreckage of a burned-out box kite with a non-inflammable pie pan tied to it."
Frank was of course referring to one of the Major Jessie Marcel Sr. photos in which he states he was ordered to pose with falsified wreckage and stay silent about it.

...and then one of Gen. Ramey (on left) and his Chief of Staff, Col. Thomas Dubose (on right) obviously seriously examining the wreckage.


...and then another of the two of them laughing about what an idiot Major Marcel must be.


"Gee the Intelligence officer of our most important secret base, (because it is our only nuclear squadron of the day) apparently can't tell the difference between a weather balloon and a spaceship from Mars! Hahahaha! 
Marcel swore that in private when he was ordered to pose with the false wreckage and keep quiet, he was promised "that one day, when this all comes out, you will be made a hero!" He patiently endured that shame and waited for that day in silence. That day never came and so shortly before he died he gave a few interviews stating in no uncertain terms what had really happened that day. 

Frank Edwards "Flying Saucers - Here and Now"
Originally posted by A51Watcher Post ID 10398508

Who knows better what really happened on that day, than the men who were actually involved in the event?

Well besides Major Jessie Marcel, who was pictured front page across the nation, we also have another member of that event from the previous day, who was the man responsible for the headline heard round the world:


Lt. Walter Haut, then the public information officer for the 509th Bomb Group in Roswell:


In WWII, Lt. Haut had been a navigator and then a bombardier as a crew member of the 509th,
but on that fateful day in 1947, after weeks of intense UFO sightings, he issued this stunning official AAF release to the nation's press:

"The many rumors regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence office of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Airfield was fortunate enough to gain possesion of a disc through the cooperation of one of the local ranchers and the sheriff's office of Chaves County. The flying object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week. Not having phone facilities, the rancher stored the disc until such time as he was able to contact the sheriff's office, who in turn notified Maj. Jesse A. Marcel of the 509th Bomb Group Intelligence Office. Action was immediately taken and the disc was picked up at the rancher's home. It was inspected at the Roswell Army Air Field and subsequently loaned by Major Marcel to higher headquarters."
From that day on, until his death in 2005, Lt. Haut kept his oath and never revealed publicly what he knew about the monumentous events of that day in Roswell. 
However in 2000, he privately gave an interview with 2 researchers he trusted, first stipulating that the interview was not to be released until after his death. Then in 2002, he prepared a notarized affidavit, which was sealed and not to be made public until after his death, and thus he kept a promise made to Col. Blanchard, to not disclose it while he was alive.

So in his own words, what did yet another -man who was actually involved in the event- have to say about that fateful day?

"In July, 1947, I was stationed at the Roswell Army Air Base in Roswell, New Mexico, serving as the base Public Information Officer.  I had spent the 4th of July weekend (Saturday, the 5th, and Sunday, the 6th) at my private residence about 10 miles north of the base, which was located south of town.

I was aware that someone had reported the remains of a downed vehicle by midmorning after my return to duty at the base on Monday, July 7.  I was aware that Major Jesse A. Marcel, head of intelligence, was sent by the base commander, Col. William Blanchard, to investigate.

By late in the afternoon that same day, I would learn that additional civilian reports came in regarding a second site just north of Roswell.  I would spend the better part of the day attending to my regular duties hearing little if anything more.

On Tuesday morning, July 8, I would attend the regularly scheduled staff meeting at 7:30 a.m.  Besides Blanchard, Marcel; CIC [Counterintelligence Corp] Capt. Sheridan Cavitt; Col. James I. Hopkins, the operations officer; Lt. Col. Ulysses S. Nero, the supply officer; and from Carswell AAF in Fort Worth, Texas, Blanchard's boss, Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey and his chief of staff, Col. Thomas J. Dubose were also in attendance.  The main topic of discussion was reported by Marcel and Cavitt regarding an extensive debris field in Lincoln County approx. 75 miles NW of Roswell.  A preliminary briefing was provided by Blanchard about the second site approx. 40 miles north of town.  Samples of wreckage were passed around the table.  It was unlike any material I had or have ever seen in my life.  Pieces which resembled metal foil, paper thin yet extremely strong, and pieces with unusual markings along their length were handled from man to man, each voicing their opinion.  No one was able to identify the crash debris.

One of the main concerns discussed at the meeting was whether we should go public or not with the discovery.  Gen. Ramey proposed a plan, which I believe originated from his bosses at the Pentagon.  Attention needed to be diverted from the more important site north of town by acknowledging the other location. Too many civilians were already involved and the press already was informed.  I was not completely informed how this would be accomplished. 

At approximately 9:30 a.m. Col. Blanchard phoned my office and dictated the press release of having in our possession a flying disc, coming from a ranch northwest of Roswell, and Marcel flying the material to higher headquarters.  I was to deliver the news release to radio stations KGFL and KSWS, and newspapers the Daily Record and the Morning Dispatch.

By the time the news release hit the wire services, my office was inundated with phone calls from around the world.  Messages stacked up on my desk, and rather than deal with the media concern, Col Blanchard suggested that I go home and "hide out."

Before leaving the base, Col. Blanchard took me personally to Building 84 [AKA Hangar P-3], a B-29 hangar located on the east side of the tarmac.  Upon first approaching the building, I observed that it was under heavy guard both outside and inside.  Once inside, I was permitted from a safe distance to first observe the object just recovered north of town.  It was approx. 12 to 15 feet in length, not quite as wide, about 6 feet high, and more of an egg shape.  Lighting was poor, but its surface did appear metallic.  No windows, portholes, wings, tail section, or landing gear were visible.

Also from a distance, I was able to see a couple of bodies under a canvas tarpaulin.  Only the heads extended beyond the covering, and I was not able to make out any features.  The heads did appear larger than normal and the contour of the canvas suggested the size of a 10 year old child.  At a later date in Blanchard's office, he would extend his arm about 4 feet above the floor to indicate the height.

I was informed of a temporary morgue set up to accommodate the recovered bodies.

I was informed that the wreckage was not "hot" (radioactive).

Upon his return from Fort Worth, Major Marcel described to me taking pieces of the wreckage to Gen. Ramey's office and after returning from a map room, finding the remains of a weather balloon and radar kite substituted while he was out of the room. Marcel was very upset over this situation.  We would not discuss it again.

I would be allowed to make at least one visit to one of the recovery sites during the military cleanup. I would return to the base with some of the wreckage which I would display in my office.

I was aware two separate teams would return to each site months later for periodic searches for any remaining evidence. I am convinced that what I personally observed was some type of craft and its crew from outer space."

Source:   Tom Carey & Donald Schmitt, Witness to Roswell, 2007

So there you have it. Another man, who was actually involved in the event, revealing the true Alien nature of the event.
Walter G. Haut - 1922 - 2005

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